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Dear Mark, I was doing a study today and came across the verse Ephesians 6:12. Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Eph 6:11-12 In this verse it speaks of our spiritual battles. My question is: in the last part of the verse it says we fight against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly paces, what is the meaning here of that phrase? In other translations I have found the word realm here. I thought that no wickedness was allowed into heaven, so I was curious of the meaning here of heavenly places. Thank you, S
Dear S The word for heaven in the Greek is ouranos and technically means "the sky" and by extension heaven. Therefore "heaven" often means the place of God’s abode. It is probably best that we not limit the word, however, to a particular place with limited boundaries. I would agree with John MacArther’s statements in his commentary on the book of Ephesians. He feels that in chapter 2:6 where it says that we are seated with Christ in heavenly places that the phrase "refers to the supernatural sphere where God rules," while in 6:12 "it refers to the supernatural sphere where Satan rules." In other words the realm of the sky, or air is that of the supernatural, which includes the influence of God and Satan. Heaven is not always to be understood as God’s most immediate presence. I believe Ephesians 6:12 stresses that fact that behind the temporal/material struggles we experience there are spiritual issues at stake, which are of interest to the supernatural powers. Therefore, while in one sense our struggles are indeed with flesh and blood, there lies behind them a greater struggle with powers in the unseen realm. This relates particularly to Christians. As the people of Jesus, our life's struggles take on a whole new meaning. There is more at stake than our personal happiness and comfort. We are partners with God in the Kingdom mission, and in a sense our struggles take on cosmic proportions. That is why we are exhorted to put on the spiritual armor. Because the odds are now greater, we need more than our own strength. As we successfully endure, we also impact more than just ourselves. We display the glory of God and we further His cause in the world. It's quite exciting when you think about. Hope this helps, and may God strengthen each of us for the battle. Pastor Mark Question 2
Hi Mark!
We
had a couple quick questions. My Mother has been reading the Bible
from
start to finish and has had questions to ask my husband & I. Some we can
answer, but many, we are ourselves uncertain about the actual accurate answer.
Would you please explain to us so we can explain to my Mother the answer to
these two questions when you get a chance:
#1. What is the Book of Revelation referring to when it describes the 144,000
from all the tribes of Israel (Chapter 6 beginning in verse 3-8). My Mom asked
the question if this means only 144,000 people are ultimately going to spend
eternity with God?
#2. Where in the Bible does it describe the occurrence of two people working
in a field ---when one person will be taken, the other left behind (in the field
for example)? Does this have any significance to the 144,000 number? We tried to
look up the Book and verse, but couldn't find it. I believe this was to occur
before any actions in the Book of Revelation took place?
Take care,
Dear H & P Good to hear from you. Thanks for the questions. Concerning the 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel; they are mentioned in the beginning of chapter 7 and again in chapter 14. Chapter 7:1-8 clearly indicates they are from the tribes of Israel. I believe they are Jews who will be saved. According to chapter 14:1-5 "They were purchased from among men and offered as firstfruits to God and the Lamb" (v.5). As first fruits, they would be the forerunners of those who would believe after them, and probably through their witness. Therefore, I am quite sure that Revelation does not indicate that only 144,000 will spend eternity with God. This is an errant interpretation of these passages. You might want to ask your mother where she got this view of these texts, since there are groups who teach it. The
other text to which you refer is Matthew 24:40-41 Jesus says this during His Olivet discourse on the final events. Again there are varying interpretations. Many a sermon has been preached that sees this as the rapture of the church. One will be taken and the other left behind to endure the tribulation. Others see it as the day that Jesus will return in glory, when those who have come to know him will be gathered, before the final conflict. Others still, also see it as the day when Jesus comes in glory and judgment, but see the one taken as the one taken away for judgment, and the one who is left, the one who is saved from that judgment. This chapter is most difficult to interpret with certainty. I would simply say that the point is found in verse 42 "Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come." Maybe that is why it remains less than obvious. Take care and stay in touch. Pastor Mark
Question 3 Pastor Mark,Another question I have been wrestling with is, ever since I've been young someone has always told me that life is like a chess game, God and Satan are playing and we are the pawns. In Sunday school, you mentioned that you believe that we are just a small part of a bigger picture in the war of God and Satan. It got me thinking about all I had read in Genesis. We all were given a free will and that is why Eve sinned, and Adam of course did too. When I was reading where Moses was to lead the Israelites out of Egypt, it mentions many times where Pharaoh's heart was hardened, even though his own will was to let them go and take all they had, God hardened his heart 7 times. When Job followed all God had asked him and more, God had everything taken away from him. Even though in the end he was blessed with many more children I know that hundreds of more children could never replace my current son and daughter. If God can harden their hearts is he still doing it now? Do we really make our own choices or are they influencing our choices? When I went to a Nazarene Church last year and they knew I was a Baptist, the Pastor said we believe that not all people are meant to be saved. Many who want to be saved never make it because we are pre-picked who will make it. I told them I had never heard of that before. For the last year my head has been swirling over what I've read and heard. I've tried to make sense of it and I can't. I sometimes think my heart is hardening trying on my own to make sense of it. As you
can tell I'm very confused. I told Pastor Dave, I feel the
God of the Old and New Testament are 2 different Gods. I've always spent
my time in the New Testament, now that I'm reading the Old one, God
seems so different. If you can help me untangle my thoughts and
get me on the right track I sure would be grateful. Dear Page The question of God's sovereignty and man's free will has caused many disagreements among Christians over the centuries. Greater minds than mine have grappled with the issue, and all I can do is give you my understanding. I believe that God is absolutely sovereign. I also believe that he has given us free will, and respects our decisions. In some way, like a great conductor, God takes our individual choices, varying degrees of willingness to follow his lead, and both good and bad notes, and then organizes them to accomplish His will. I know that left on my own, I probably would never have found God had he not found me. Yet, I believe that He is willing to let me accept or reject His overtures to me. In the case of Pharaoh, I believe that when it says that God hardened his heart, it means that God expedited the hardness that was already in Pharaoh's heart. Like wet concrete, Pharaoh already had that hardness in it. God simply "hardened" it faster, so that He could demonstrate His power and love for His people. While Pharaoh temporarily considered letting the people go after certain plagues, I don't think that indicates a softened heart, only a grief stricken one. My Jewish Pastor in a Messianic Congregation in Chicago told me that God took the natural elements of Pharaoh's heart and brought them to their natural conclusion faster than they might have otherwise, in order to accomplish His will. That does not mean that Pharaoh really wanted to repent, and God wouldn't allow it. I hope I'm distinguishing that difference clearly for you. In the case of Job, for instance, God did not "have everything taken from him," but rather allowed Satan to have his way with Job within certain limits. The loss of his family should be blamed on Satan, rather than God. However, God did allow it to happen. Without knowing his family members very well, it is impossible for us to say whether this seems fair or not. But for Job, who is described as an upright man, God allowed these loses. If his family was also righteous, that is people of faith, then I trust that in the afterlife Job saw them all again. We must remember that we are limited in our thinking (we can't understand how the next life will change our perceptions of this life), and therefore, are not in a position to accuse God of the lack of justice or fairness. Just as a baby, safe and happy within the womb, cannot imagine life this side of the traumatic birth canal, neither can we imagine life the other side of death. Job might have felt the same as you when he lay on his ash heap in this life, but in heaven, finds himself of an altogether different opinion. Ultimately, these questions are a test of our trust in God's character. What appears to our finite minds to be a contradiction in God's character, we must assume is rather a limitation in our understanding. Your questions are legitimate and they are good questions. Others express them also. The key, I think, is whether we will trust God to be beyond our understanding, or insist that He must make sense to us, or He cannot be God. I hope that trusting Him enables you to live at peace with some these unresolved difficulties. Pastor Mark
Question
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In
Revelation 20:2-4, the 1000 years seems to refer to the time Satan is bound
in the Abyss. Verses 4-6 mention the martyrs coming to life and reigning
with Christ a thousand years. Then Rev 21:3-4, states "And I heard a loud
voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he
will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them
and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more
death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed
away." Do you interpret this to mean God will be on earth, or the
"men" will be in heaven?
Incidentally, the authors of the series take the information in Revelations
very literally, with all the judgments occurring just as they are written. Any
thoughts on this? Dear Carolyn, First let me say, that
it comes to prophecy yet to be fulfilled, there is always room for differences
in opinion about how that fulfillment will come to pass. Part of the confusion
comes from the fact that the entire story of the future is not laid out in
one passage of Scripture. One must put the message of one prophet alongside
that of another, and depending on how one puts the various accounts together,
interpretations may vary.
Allow me also to say at
the outset that I too read the Scriptures in a literal fashion. I take it
to mean what it says, unless there is adequate indication that it is intended
to be understood symbolically. Of course, apocalyptic passages, or those
about the climactic events of history lend themselves to being interpreted
either way, literally or figuratively.
Concerning the millennial
kingdom, I do believe that Jesus will return to reign upon the throne of
David for 1000 years. This means that the world will be under the rule of
a "Jewish" king, since Jesus was born in the lineage of David (Matt.
1:1). I believe this to be true because it will most adequately fulfill the
many Biblical references to a future Davidic (or Jewish) monarchy, that will
be a time of world-wide peace.
The cornerstone of why
I believe in the 1000 year reign of Jesus Christ is, of course, Rev. 20:4.
Here it clearly says that Christ will reign for 1,000 years. I do believe that
Satan will be bound during that time and unable to tempt us. Therefore, those
living during
that time will find they can no longer use the excuse that "the devil made
me do it." Rather, it is the human heart that is sinful (see James 1:14-15).
Therefore, Jesus will rule with a rod of iron (Rev. 19:15), because people will
still be inclined to sin. But under Messiah's rule there will be perfect peace
and harmony.
I believe in an earthly
rule of Messiah (Christ) because it will fulfill the many promises that have
yet to be fulfilled in their entirety. Among such verses I would include
Zech 14:9, 16-20; Micah 4:3-4; Is 2:1-4; and Isaiah 9:6-7. Such passages
speak of a peace & harmony we have never known during the reign of a
Jewish king upon the throne of David. It would be consistent with a millennial
view that these are references to that 1000 year reign of Christ.
Once again, let me
say that this is the way I put these passages, and others like them, together
into a coherent whole. But you cannot refer to a specific passage in the
Bible which puts them all into one story. However, I must also say that if
we cannot believe Rev. 20:4 literally, just as it is written ("reigned
with Christ a thousand years'), then how can we trust that any passage of
Scripture means what it says?
Therefore I see a millenial
kingdom when Messiah Jesus will reign on earth, after which, there will be
a new heaven and new earth. Rev 20 & 21 are not necessarily talking about
the exact same time period.
I'm glad you are studying
these things. I am sure the difficulties are with our ability to understand
and not God's ability to promise and fulfill. I hope to hear from you again.
Pastor Mark
Question
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I have three questions: Dear Big Dog Scholars
have tried to discern the date of Jesus' birth by checking Luke's historical
markers, but without much luck. Luke's account of the birth of Jesus
begins this way.
In
those days Caesar Augustus issued a decree that a census should be
taken of the entire Roman world. 2 (This was the first census that
took place while Quirinius was governor of Syria.)
Luke
2:1-2
Scholars cannot
find verification of a census that coincides with both Augustus and
Quirinius. As a result, there is debate over whether Jesus was born
someplace between 6 BC and 6 AD. However, it is without a doubt that
our current marking of time refers to the birth of Jesus as the beginning
of a new era.
I suspect that
your other two questions are both related to Gen. 6:1-4 where we read
When
men began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born
to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters
of men were
beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. 3 Then the LORD
said, "My Spirit will not contend with man forever, for he is
mortal ; his days will be a hundred and twenty years." 4 The Nephilim
were on the earth in those days--and also afterward--when the sons
of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They
were the heroes of old, men of renown. (Genesis
6:1-4)
The King James
Version translates Nephilim as "giants."
There are three
camps of interpretation concerning this passage. One is the idea that
angels joined with human women. But the arguments for this interpretation
are weak. It runs counter to Jesus statement in Matthew 22:30 that
angels do not marry. In addition, if this were a story of the wickedness
of angels, then it should have resulted in the flooding of heaven,
not the earth. Furthermore, if this resulted in some mutation of giants,
surely in a passage like that concerning Goliath, it would have been
mentioned.
A second theory
is that the sons of God refer to the sons of Seth (the covenant family,
or the "good guys") and that the daughters of men refer to
sons of Cain, (those who are worldly, or the "bad guys.")
This may be a better interpretation than the above, however, the marriage
of covenant people with those outside the covenant, or believers with
unbelievers, doesn't fit in any way with "giants" or "men
of renown."
I think the best
interpretation is the third. "Sons of god" was an early tribal
reference to kings, nobles and aristocrats in the ancient near east.
Such were despots who lusted for power and to be "men of renown." They
began to marry any woman they chose, and many of them, perpetuating
their wickedness. Walter Kaiser of Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary
gives five lines of argument supporting this view. Among them he includes
the fact that Nephilim is also translated as "bully or tyrant." These
people are those of power, strength, and greatness in human terms,
or "giant" figures. The weakness of this interpretation is
that it requires a variant form of the term elohim (God), but this
is not necessarily out of the ordinary in that day.
I hope this is
helpful. You can read Kaiser's viewpoint in his book "More Hard
Sayings of the Old Testament."
Pastor Mark
Question
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Therefore, when you
ask several people their educated opinions of what the Bible means,
you may get several aspects of the boundaries of truth. Through your
own Bible study and prayer, you continue to seek. Sometimes we must
accept that we are seeking the truth, but not necessarily gaining the
truth, or arriving at the final answer.
Question
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Dear D
Question
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Betty
Dear
Betty,
And he passed in front
of Moses, proclaiming, "The LORD, the LORD, the compassionate and gracious
God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness, maintaining love to thousands,
and forgiving wickedness, rebellion and sin. Yet
he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the children and their children
for the sin
of the fathers to the third and fourth generation." Exodus 34:6-7
At
first it might sound as if a person must serve the penalty for the sins of
their parents. If we are under the curse of our parent's sins, and we put
our faith in Christ, how does our personal salvation and forgiveness come
into play?
My
understanding is that sin always carries consequences. For example, if a
man robs a bank and is caught, he will serve time in jail. Even if he comes
to Jesus and is completely forgiven for his sin, he will still have certain
consequences to pay. He will serve his time in jail, as well as always have
an awareness of his failure. He will have a record that might affect his
employment, etc.
In
the same way, if this man is a father, then his children will also suffer
with the consequences. They will grow up at best with an absent father who
is in jail. They may be affected financially by the stigma that goes with
their father having a criminal record. However, as they surrender their life
to Jesus as Savior and Lord, they are completely forgiven by God and their
salvation is secure.
In
my opinion God was telling Moses that there are enduring consequences for
our choices and behavior. When God gives us His law, He is pointing out that
if we will follow His directions, life will go better for both us and our
children. Another place where this is apparent is Ps 103:17-18.
But
from everlasting to everlasting the Lord's love is with those who fear him,
and his righteousness with their children's children-- with those who keep
his covenant and remember to obey his precepts. Psalms
103:17-18
However, while we live
with the consequences of our actions, our salvation rests not on our keeping
of the law, but on God's grace through our faith in Jesus Christ. The clearest
expression of this is found in Ephesians 2:4-10. In part, that passage says
But
because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, made us alive
with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions--it is by grace you
have been saved. . . . For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and
this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God-- not by works, so that no
one can boast. For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do
good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do. Eph.
2:4-5 & 8-10.
You
see, our salvation is based on God's great love for us, and Christ's finished
work on the cross. After we accept Christ, God is at work making us more
like Christ, and we should see an increase in our obedience to His will.
Now,
I need to tell you that Maurita, my wife, always feels that my answers are
too long and complicated. So if this is confusing or unclear, ask again.
God
bless you as you seek to know God better and follow His will in your life.
Pastor
Mark
Question
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- anglmision
Dear
Angl The exact
nature of heaven and the resurrection body may be among the most perplexing
questions in the Bible. While it is clear that heaven is the Christian's
ultimate destination, many details are not clear. The list in your
question includes these kinds of details.
The text
that immediately comes to mind is 1 Corinthians 15:35-53. Here, the
apostle Paul deals with the question of the resurrection body. He describes
how the resurrection body will be continuous with the physical body
of this world, yet at the same time different. Here is what it says.
But
someone may ask, "How are the dead raised? With what kind of body
will they come?" 36 How foolish! What you sow does not come to
life unless it dies. 37 When you sow, you do not plant the body that
will be, but just a seed, perhaps of wheat or of something else. 38
But God gives it a body as he has determined, and to each kind of seed
he gives its own body. 39 All flesh is not the same: Men have one kind
of flesh, animals have another, birds another and fish another. 40
There are also heavenly bodies and there are earthly bodies; but the
splendor of the heavenly bodies is one kind, and the splendor of the
earthly bodies is another. 41 The sun has one kind of splendor, the
moon another and the stars another; and star differs from star in splendor.
42 So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is
sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable; 43 it is sown in dishonor,
it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power;
44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there
is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. 45 So it is written: "The
first man Adam became a living being" ; the last Adam, a life-giving
spirit. 46 The spiritual did not come first, but the natural, and after
that the spiritual. 47 The first man was of the dust of the earth,
the second man from heaven. 48 As was the earthly man, so are those
who are of the earth; and as is the man from heaven, so also are those
who are of heaven. 49 And just as we have borne the likeness of the
earthly man, so shall we bear the likeness of the man from heaven.
50 I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit
the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.
51 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will
all be changed-- 52 in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the
last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable,
and we will be changed. 53 For the perishable must clothe itself with
the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality. (1
Corinthians 15:35-53)
So we know
that the body must go through a change before it becomes the heavenly
body. Just like a particular seed results in a particular tree, so
there will be some kind of continuity between this physical body and
the resurrected body. However there are some significant differences
between a seed and a tree. So it will be with the resurrection body.
The exact nature of those details are left open for speculation. My
guess is that it may be beyond our comprehension. Maybe the very categories
we use (three dimensional, four? six?) are less than adequate. In any
case, we know that God's will for us good and that the resurrected
body will surely be something of wonder.
Pastor Mark
Question
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Thanks...Again, Dear A Rather than
assume that prophecy is "symbolic," I assume that I may not
fully understand how it will be fulfilled.
Having said
that, the Thessalonians passage to which you refer has every indication
that Paul is intending it to be understood literally rather than symbolically.
When the Bible is speaking sybolically, it tends to be obviously the
case. For instance when Jesus spoke in parables, or symbols, the Bible
specifically makes that clear. God's intent
isn't to mislead us with symbols, but rather to share with us His truth.
In some cases, that might only be communicated (or be better communicated
) in symbolic language. But otherwise, God simply tends to tell it
like it is.
Hope you
find this helpful.
May you
know the Savior's grace every day -
Question
11 Dear
M Be
joyful always; pray continually; give thanks in all circumstances,
for
this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
In other words, I think the exhortation is that we should be perpetually
in a spirit of joyful and thankful dialogue with our Heavenly Father about
whatever is going on in our lives. In my own life, I find the need for
specific "appointments" with God, where I address particular
issues with Him. However, I also try to be in constant conversation with
Him while driving, counseling, or eating, for example. It is an awareness
that He si always present, listening to my thoughts and whispering in my
heart. In this way, we seek to "pray without
ceasing."
Pastor
Mark
Question
12 Dear H I also suspect
that when we all get to heaven we will find that those who held positions
of apparent esteem, prominence, importance or influence on earth will
not be at the top of God's "hit parade." Rather it will be
those who have been faithful in their testimony, in parenting, in the
workplace, etc. Quiet Christians who loved the Savior and served Him
in humble and simple ways will find their service rewarded. Someone
asked him, "Lord, are only a few people going to be saved?" He
said to them, 24 "Make every effort to enter through the narrow
door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be
able to. 25 Once the owner of the house gets up and closes the door,
you will stand outside knocking and pleading, 'Sir, open the door
for us.' "But he will answer, 'I don't know you or where you
come from.' 26 "Then you will say, 'We ate and drank with you,
and you taught in our streets.' 27 "But he will reply, 'I don't
know you or where you come from. Away from me, all you evildoers!'
28 "There will be weeping there, and gnashing of teeth, when
you see Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom
of God, but you yourselves thrown out. 29 People will come from east
and west and north and south, and will take their places at the feast
in the kingdom of God. 30 Indeed there are those who are last who
will be first, and first who will be last." (Luke
13:23-30)
The most important question is do you know the Savior? Have you entered
into a personal relationship with Him?
Question
13 I
have read a book by Batya Wooten called, "In Search of Israel."
Most of it I agree with and makes sense. It also follows the "grafting
in" explanation by Paul. I can't quite seem to find the link with Ephraim,
though, or the importance of it. Perhaps you have studied Ezekiel? I find If you can help me out at all with the Ephraim/Judah/Ezekiel 37:15-? I would
GREATLY appreciate it. Any input would help.
Thanks! JL
Dear JL It also seems
to me that it is a mute point. If we are grafted into the vine as indicated
in Romans, what makes the difference? Sometimes our desire to "be
Jewish" indicates a subtle envy over their choseness. However,
if we have been grafted in, then we share in the promises, and in our
own way, have also been chosen . . . for adoption.
May the LORD
make His countenance to shine upon you
Mark
Question
14 I have been studying Leviticus for the past few days, and I was struck by the
many verses, and even entire chapters dedicated to the instruction on avoiding
unclean; things, habits, foods, people, and even natural body functions. Their
are so many regulations, and rules that it would be impossible to avoid being
unclean if one interacted with people at all. In fact I would dare to say that
if one was a seller of goods, or worked in a market; such a person would be
exposed to unclean things, people, etc. 100's of times a day. If one were to
keep the law perfectly, regarding the avoidance of being unclean it would be
impossible if there was day to day interaction with people. God's remedy for
being unclean always involved sacrifice, and time. It could get pretty
expensive, and take a week or longer, during which you must isolate yourself to
avoid making others unclean. This would have driven me crazy!
How could Jesus obey perfectly, the
laws regarding being "clean",
and interact with people the way he did? It had always been my understanding
that the new law of life that Jesus introduced was not in effect until after his
death, and resurrection. It seems to me that in order to be "clean" and
interact with people you would be spending 90% of your time sacrificing in the
temple.
Is it because Jesus did not have an "old sin nature", and was sin
free that he could interact the way he did and still be "clean?"
Any response would be appreciated.
Ish
Dear Ish First of all, I thought the following comments cast some light on this
question. The Illustrated Bible Dictionary makes
this comment. The
Encyclopedia Judaica says, Thus, ritual
impurity or uncleanness was more symbolic, or ceremonial, than substantive.
It is not the same as moral impurity, for example. Much of the ceremonial
law was a foreshadowing of Christ Himself, and what must be required
for people to come into the presence of the Divine. Thus, Jesus broke
no moral laws by touching a leper, for instance.
I am also
reminded that Jesus said, This supports
the idea that the ceremonial law was there to point out the importance
of purity, but that the infractions were not necessarily substantive.
Moreover, when Jesus touched a leper, rather than Jesus becoming unclean,
the leper became clean. Having no sin of His own and being free from
the sin nature, Jesus was not susceptible to "impurity" in
the same way we are, though I do think He was tempted to sin. However,
this would pertain more to the moral areas of the law, than the ritual,
since the ritual law had no real substantive basis.
Those are
my thoughts right now. I would hope that over time, my view would adjust
and I will grow in understanding. I'd like to know whatever further
thoughts you might have.
God bless
you with wisdom, insight and resolve to do His will.
Pastor Mark
Question
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Pastor Mark,
In Acts 19, the first
part of the chapter speaks of 2 Baptisms, one of repentance and the other to
receive the Holy Spirit, could you explain that further to me?
I am a little confused about the fact of 2, and if the 2nd one is required of
a person at the time of the water baptism? Isn't the Holy Spirit given to you at
the time of accepting the Lord, because you have Him (Jesus) living within you,
or is it not given until something separate is done. I have believed all these
years that I received the Holy Spirit at the time of my conversion, so I would
appreciate you clarifying this for me.
In His Name,
Kathy
Dear
Kathy,
This
is a good question and, of course, there are differing opinions or
interpretations. The pertinent questions include not only the two baptisms,
but just what does it mean when it says that Paul encountered some "disciples," that
Paul assumed they "believed" and significance of speaking
in tongues with the laying on of Paul’s hands.
In
Pentecostal theology of Spirit-baptism, this is a key passage. This
interpretation holds that the twelve Ephesians were already Christians
before Paul met them. His question implied that one can be a Christian
without receiving the Holy Spirit. When the disciples responded to
Paul’s teaching, he laid his hands on them to impart the baptism with
the Spirit.
Personally,
I do not feel this is the correct interpretation of this particular
passage. The main question is whether these twelve disciples of John
were already Christians, or if they became true believers only after
Paul’s teaching.
It
is best to understand this situation in the context of the preceding
passage about Apollos (Acts 18:24-28). He had recently preached in
Ephesus, and although he had a thorough knowledge of the Scriptures,
and taught accurately about Jesus, he knew only the baptism of John.
Priscilla and Aquila had to give him more adequate instruction, just
as Paul did when he met the twelve.
It
is also important to interpret this passage in light of the rest of
Scripture, such as Romans 8:9, where we read, "And
if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to
Christ."
It seems clear that if someone truly gives their life to Christ, the receive
the Holy Spirit. However, Ephesians 5:18 (where the Greek verb shows continuous
or repeated action) indicates that even those who posses the Spirit can
have
additional experiences of His filling.
Therefore, I
tend to be of the opinion that these were disciples of John who had
been baptized by John for repentance and understood his teaching concerning
the coming Messiah, Jesus. However, they had not yet truly received
Christ. While they had their facts straight, they had not entered into
a personal relationship with Jesus, that is, until Paul further explained
to them what it means to receive Christ. I believe that when they responded
to Paul’s presentation of the Gospel, understanding that they must
give their lives to the living, risen One, they believed, were baptized
in Christ and received the Holy Spirit.
This might be
similar to those in our own day who have been raised in a church going
family and believe they are Christians by virtue of their relationship
with their parents, and their ability to answer the doctrinal questions
correctly. However, they have yet to surrender themselves to the living
Christ, receiving Him into their life, and experiencing the baptism
of the Holy Spirit. These disciple thought they were on the right tack
because they were related to John the forerunner, and could repeat
his teaching. However, it was when they came to accept Jesus after
the further clarification by Paul that they received the Holy Spirit.
I
hope this helps, and may God bless your continuing study.
-- Pastor
Mark
Question
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I would like to ask you a question if you could please email me with the
answer. Can a divorced man be an evangelist. I know he can not be a pastor or
a deacon, but I was told that he could be an evangelist. I would be most
grateful if you could email me to let me know. Dear
DEA Sorry that it has taken so long for me to respond, but I've found it hard to reduce this question to an e-mail type response. You will find that the question concerning whether a divorced person can serve as an evangelist would receive a wide variety of responses. Almost all feel that divorce is certainly something that God can forgive. However, some would say that it disqualifies someone from leadership in the church; others would hold that it disqualifies someone from pastoral leadership; and still others that God can forgive and then issue such calls to leadership anyway. It seems to me that the will of God is discerned through several means. What does the Scripture say about it? Through prayer and seeking God's will, what does it seem to you that His Spirit is communicating with your spirit? Finally, is that direction made possible and confirmed by the body of Christ? A person who is divorced may have chosen to divorce their spouse, or may have been the victim of divorce. One must discern to what extent one contributed to the breakdown in the marriage, even if one did not want divorce. Such issues may say something about one's ability to lead or whatever. But evangelism is a gift given by the Holy Spirit. If a person has repented of their part in a divorce, been forgiven by God and empowered with the spiritual gift of evangelism, it seems to me that that person is obligated to use that gift in obedience to the Holy Spirit. Of course, your question about being an evangelist implies that you are thinking of a "professional career," maybe traveling and preaching in either revivals or churches. In such a case I would encourage you to first seek God's leading in your heart, then investigate whether the opportunity is there, and then find if the church affirms that gift and calling. Only then will you know if God is empowering that ministry. For the ministry of evangelism to be truly fruitful and productive for the kingdom, it must be of the Holy Spirit. That will be the ultimate confirmation of the call. God bless you as you seek His guidance and will for your life. We know He is calling, discerning the direction and way He wants to use you is the challenge.
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